tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post6882290114538530466..comments2023-10-25T05:15:17.670-06:00Comments on Crown on the rocks: Its not "The Hall of Pretty Good"Milk River Madmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03488717739676864113noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-67055730634140113102009-01-13T14:50:00.000-07:002009-01-13T14:50:00.000-07:00Shouldn't Terrell Davis get negative consideration...Shouldn't Terrell Davis get negative consideration for getting John Elway two Super Bowl Rings. Of course he did stop Farve from getting a second so I guess that is possitive consideration. I don't know this higher math is getting to me.5Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07657223394037618943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-45760027784546423242009-01-13T14:45:00.000-07:002009-01-13T14:45:00.000-07:00The list in 5 wood HOF is long and distinguished. ...The list in 5 wood HOF is long and distinguished. Nothing wrong with that.5Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07657223394037618943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-58435896243525317412009-01-13T11:56:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:56:00.000-07:00For a 4 Year Period Terell Davis averaged 1900 yar...For a 4 Year Period Terell Davis averaged 1900 yards from Scrimmage and 15 TD's a Season. I would think that meets the definition of "dominant"? I agree that players who's careers are shorten by injury, (Sandy Koufax, Gale Sayers) or by choice (Jim Brown, Barry Sanders) should still be given the "dominant player" waiver card, and consideration outside of their career accomplishments should be granted. However, it shouldn't be applied as a deduction to a player who's career numbers rank him at the top of his profession. And 5-wood, Jim Rice applies to neither of these categories! He can sit in the 5-Wood HOF alongside Mark DuperThe Prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050828301489091816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-66089043697655265112009-01-13T11:38:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:38:00.000-07:00Jack Morris struck out twice as many guys as he fa...Jack Morris struck out twice as many guys as he faced because he was that good. Twice as many as he walked. My bad.<BR/><BR/>Terrell Davis in the Hall? Really? I didn't think he was that dominating for a long enough period. Christ, I had to think about who the hell he was for a minute.<BR/><BR/>Sorry 5 but as I stated, if Rice plays in Houston, you wouldn't know who the hell he is.Milk River Madmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03488717739676864113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-85794957475812412352009-01-13T11:28:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:28:00.000-07:00I do however believe your argument for "dominating...I do however believe your argument for "dominating player" is flawed. Case in point. Terell Davis. In or Out?The Prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050828301489091816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-7126279904568210882009-01-13T11:22:00.000-07:002009-01-13T11:22:00.000-07:00Alright... Finally some action in this blog. I co...Alright... Finally some action in this blog. I could care less if Art Monk went into the HOF, and I do think he lobbied a little too much, but what I'm still trying to figure out is how in the hell Jack Morris struck out twice the men he faced?The Prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050828301489091816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-9424849104298260432009-01-13T09:44:00.000-07:002009-01-13T09:44:00.000-07:00And Lay off Jim Rice he was one of my favorite Red...And Lay off Jim Rice he was one of my favorite Red Sox as kid.5Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07657223394037618943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-44394416736601298302009-01-13T09:42:00.000-07:002009-01-13T09:42:00.000-07:00Just a note on Warner, If he wins a SuperBowl with...Just a note on Warner, If he wins a SuperBowl with the Cardinals which is not unthinkable at this point in the season. How can you not look at him as a Hall of Fame candidate? He would have 2 rings and an MVP to his name. More than alot of guys who most certainly will be in.5Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07657223394037618943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-50811553724759670772009-01-13T08:04:00.000-07:002009-01-13T08:04:00.000-07:00"His accomplishments at the time of retirement wer..."His accomplishments at the time of retirement were Hall Worthy without Question." <BR/><BR/>Then why did it take so long? Tell me how he compared to his contemperaries. A good receiver not a great one and he proves my point about Canton. If Art Monk is worthy then Warner will be in a couple of more years of productivity as well.Milk River Madmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03488717739676864113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-26134613939049070852009-01-12T20:50:00.000-07:002009-01-12T20:50:00.000-07:00I'll give you my Art Monk argument at a later date...I'll give you my Art Monk argument at a later date if I have the time to research it. But my two word for being a member of the hall of any fame are "dominant player". Are Monk wasn't one. Michael Irving was. Thems the facts.Milk River Madmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03488717739676864113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-40025618759247285292009-01-12T17:49:00.000-07:002009-01-12T17:49:00.000-07:00While I readily admit that The Pro Football Hall o...While I readily admit that The Pro Football Hall of Fame has far too liberal of an election process, it does not include a mistake in Art Monk. Players should be measured against their peers in the era in which they played. At the time of his retirement, no player had caught more passes than Art Monk and only two other players had received passes for more yards. I also learned today that he converted 2/3 of his catches into First Downs. Art Monk was a very productive player in his era, and his teams were highly successful in that era. He aslo performed well in the Post-Season for those same teams. He is not the example of the problem with Canton, rather the backlash player that couldn't get in because so many other non-worthy candidates have won the popularity contest while Art Monk's career numbers have continued to be diminished by a fundamental change in the way offenses play the game. His accomplishments at the time of retirement were Hall Worthy without Question.The Prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050828301489091816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1945163264912740464.post-89078815490013838142009-01-12T11:34:00.000-07:002009-01-12T11:34:00.000-07:00Jack Morris: "...struck out twice as many batters ...Jack Morris: "...struck out twice as many batters as he faced." -No guns necessary, that feat alone is Hall of Fame worthy.The Prodigyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050828301489091816noreply@blogger.com